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treefort
12-18-2004, 11:49 AM
I live in an area that can get a fair amount of snow. My water problems seem to happen during the wet seasons (early spring and late fall) and are more pooling and seepage rather than outright flooding.

I have heard conflicting advice about whether it would be appropriate to have a sump pump drain to the septic system. Some say that it is a very bad idea, that it can damage the septic field. Others say that with my volume of water it should be okay, and warn that the sump outflow could get blocked with snow or ice, in which case the motor would eventually burn out.

I prefer to err on the side of caution. A pump motor is much cheaper to replace than a septic field. However, I'm looking for more advice before I decide what to do.

I am on a hill, so another opinion is that, instead of using a sump pump, I should run a drain pipe under the foundation and downhill to daylight. This would then protect me from power failures and sump burnouts. The problems with this approach are that the existing exterior draintile could be damaged and also it would mean a bobcat rolling across my septic field. I would also have to be careful not to drain too close to the neighbor's property. Also, this option is a little more expensive than a high quality pump system like SuperSump.

I have heard of IceGuard. I realize that is an option but I am looking for opinions on the other options:

1) Supersump to septic. (Probably bad.)
2) Supersump to daylight, with some kind of pressure release valve that sends water to septic if sump drain is blocked. (Could that work?)
3) Supersump to daylight, with outflow punching through under my front step where snow does not tend to drift. Maybe I could let it free fall a short distance to a gutter, from there to a corner and finally away from the house.
4) Excavate a trench (carefully), lay a pipe under the footing to a sump pit, and let gravity do the work.

By the way, my Basement Systems local representative has been an excellent resource - pragmatic and helpful.

Also FYI, my solution is very likely to also require WaterGuard, as there is some leakage along the cold joint. The thought of jackhammering so close to the foundation footings worries me, but the risk of mold and water damage if I finish the basement is even more worrisome. Any comments about busting up the slab so close to the footing, other than that your representatives are very, very careful?

Thanks,
"treefort"

Mark
12-20-2004, 09:35 AM
Thanks for the questions. From the description of your water problem WaterGuard and SuperSump sound like the ideal answer. Seepage from the floor wall joint is a very common entry point for water. However like you I do not suggest ever connecting a sump discharge line to a septic system. I would suggest some type of discharge line to daylight with an IceGuard. Breaking the floor at the perimeter of the basement is very common and we don't suggest breaking the footing. I have WaterGuard and a Supersump in my own home and recently finished my own basement. You should be very confident with this type of system.

Mark Daconto VP
Basement Systems

treefort
12-28-2004, 04:12 PM
Thanks for helping steer me away from draining to septic even as a backup. I will ask my local rep about IceGuard and will consider it in comparison to DIY alternatives.

As for WaterGuard, I would really not be surprised if I end up needing that, but I am considering starting with just the SuperSump in case that might suffice. Is that a common strategy?

Granted, there is something to be said for the confidence of knowing the problem is solved once and for all.